// this was the copy of the resolution of the ratification of USG..
it will be implemented daw sa susunod na school year...
De La Salle University
Student Council P.L.A.R. No. 2008-02-20
Legislative Assembly Status: Approved
Resolution No. 2008-56
Sponsored by:
Jamil Saripada, BnE09 Jamie Agra, BnE09
Leah Villalon, 60th Eng EJ Apuli, 60th Eng
RESOLUTION CALLING FOR THE RATIFICATION OF THE UNIVERSITY STUDENT GOVERNMENT
Whereas, the Legislative Assembly is the highest policy making body in the Student Council (Student Council Constitution, Article VIII, Section 1);
Whereas, any amendment or revision of this constitution may be proposed by the students by initiative upon a vote of at least two-thirds of the members of the Legislative Assembly (De La Salle University Student Council, Article XVII, Section 1);
Whereas, it is stated that amendments to the constitution shall only be allowed within two years following the ratification of the constitution (De La Salle University Student Council Constitution, Article XVII, Section 3);
Whereas, it is stated that the Constitution shall take effect the school year following the ratification by a majority of fifty percent plus one votes cast by the members of the De La Salle University Student Council at a plebiscite called for by this purpose (De La Salle University Student Council Constitution, Article XX);
Whereas, any amendments or revision of this constitution under Section 1 hereof shall be valid only when ratified by a majority of all votes cast in a plebiscite (De La Salle University Student Council Constitution, Article XVII, Section 2);
Whereas, the resolution calling for the review of the De La Salle University Student Council constitution was approved last June 13, 2008. (Resolution No. 2008-09, P.L.A.R. No. 2008-01-14);
Whereas, the resolution calling for the approval of the proposed ammendments or revisions of the current student council constitution was approved with atleast two-thirds of the members of the Legislative Assembly last September 26, 2008. (Resolution No. 2008-37 P.L.A.R. No. 2008-01-22)
Whereas, the last ammendment of the Student Council Constitution was last 1995-1996. This is more than two (2) years after its ratification.
Whereas, the plebiscite took place last October 13-19 and October 21-25, 2008.
Whereas, the plebiscite casted 3, 684 votes with 2, 521 (68.43%) students favored the ratification, 896 (24.32%) students were against the ratification and 267 (7.25%) students abstained.
Whereas, a majority of fifty percent plus one votes casted by the members of De La Salle University Student Government was in favor of the ratification.
Wherefore, be it resolved that the University Student Government (USG) shall take effect starting school year 2009-2010.
Wherefore, be it finally resolved that the University Student Government (USG) is ratified.
Adopted, November, 14, 2008
hello? marunong ba sila magcompute?!!!! mas mataas na pala ngaun yung 684 sa 896... pambihira..
ReplyDeleteanong sinasabi mo? 3,684 kaya yung number ng students na nag-vote. 2,521 students favored. 896 students ang against. 267 students ang nag-abstain.
ReplyDeleteYAY.
ReplyDeletebobo cla. gumagawa ng sarili nilang rule. usapan nung una 50+1 ng total student. xD
ReplyDeletehaya nga dinelete ko.. ahahahaha..
ReplyDeletesabaw ako that time..
hindi ko nakita yung ibang numbers.. :))
they could have interpreted the consti wrongly kaya dati akala nila 50%+1 of the whole population, which has just been proven unnecessary.
ReplyDeletewith the adaptation of the interpretation of 50%+1 votes of the total population needed to ratify the constitution, there is a huge problem.
ReplyDeletelet us assume that out of the 11k students in the school, only 3,684 cared enough about the outcome of the usg and so took the time to vote. Should the votes of these people really be sacrificed and considered invalid just because other students were either too apathetic or too lazy to log on to their my la salle accounts and cast their votes. this was a major issue which was brought up in the Legislative Assembly.
So i request before you start making remarks like "bobo cla" please do think about the issue at hand and what effects your statements may cause.
-Jet Luga, Catch2T12 LA Rep
ewan ko here is my stand on this...
ReplyDeleteagain, im not a tapat or santugon..
ok?!
1. i think kung talagang 50%+1 ng total votes at hindi ng total population dapat sinabi nila yun agad.. or kung kung hindi sinabi agad.. dapat sinabi nila ng MALINAW na ganun nga.. the fact is hindi nila sinabi ng MALINAW kaya nagkakagulo...
2. i think the students are "not too apathetic or too lazy to log-in their my lasalle account" some students do not really know what USG is, so why would they care to vote if they dont know what it is..
i think kasalanan din "NILA" yun kasi hindi nila ininform ng MABUTI yung mga students kaya konti lang yung bumoto..
oh well na pass na nga..
pero i think "YOU" should still them what it is..
ang dami pa rin hindi nakakalam kung ano yun..
maya magulat na lang yung mga tao sa GE next year na me ganito-ganyan na pala..
state naman kase ng maayus un 50%+1. lage na lng kxe nagbabago pag meron ndi naachieve. every year na lng may nangyayareng ganito. tsk tsk. Secondly how could you say na 3k++ lng ang may pake? so you're saying that the other 7k++ student don't care/lazy? and lastly what effect could my "bobo cla" statement do? implementation of another alternative SC?? ISANG MALAKING WTFUDGE
ReplyDeletevery well said! kaya kita labs eh! ^^
ReplyDeleteExcuse lang Mr. Luga, ung mga hindi bumoto hindi lang dahil tamad sila. If it's very important katulad ng paglipat ng free day sa monday malamang lahat talaga boboto. We can therefore see it na para sa mga students hindi tlg ganun kaimportante ang usg. Importante lang ang usg para sa mga makikinabang dito. Anu nga? Cguro hindi nga sila "bobo" but it doesn't make them "wise" either. K? :)
ReplyDeleteactually i think well-informed ang mga students about this issue and okay naman ang pagpublicize. the reason the students didnt vote is because they know that this (USG) isnt necessary. bat ka nagassume na their apathetic or lazy. another thing is plebscite nga dba? bakit pa kailangan i-extend pa ng i-extend habang umabot ang yes votes sa quota? para san pa ung plebiscite kung ganun lng din pala mangyayari..
ReplyDeleteoo. hindi kasalanan ng information dissemination. OVERPUBLICIZED ang usg.
ReplyDeletewell said and good example. nung change free day to monday ang na brought up na issue maraming students ang nagreact pero nung tungkol sa USG wala.. nagreact sila sa monday free day kasi important un. what does this mean..?
ReplyDeletemeaning ang mai problema hindi ung system kundi ung mga tao sa system. sila sila mismo nagpapagulo. mga students naman chill lng eh. they can claim na sila nagpapadali sa buhay ng mga students. eh ano naman? responsibility nila un. don't take any position if di mo din naman paninindigan.
ReplyDeletewith regards to the 50%+1 votes, hindi namin na sabi agad kasi it was a thought that didn't cross our minds. and with regards with the students not knowing what USG is, the SC has done all they can to inform the students about the USG in the form of forums, posters, etc and I even believe that there is a Flash presentation before you vote. So I believe the effort of the SC to inform the students about the USG was really there, but maybe some students just didn't take the time to learn, but it is perfectly fine that they didn't want to because that is their choice. That's the point I wanted to stress out.
ReplyDeleteWell first of all, this is a very major issue kaya ngang there is always thorough discussion despite unpredicted turnouts. Secondly, obviously if the students really cared about the outcome of the USG, they would obviously take the time to vote. If they had a stand, but didn't put their vote on the MyLaSalle, I think it implies that they don't care about the turnout. They may have a stand, but there is a big difference about having a stand and taking a stand. And lastly, when you say bobo sila, you are addressing the Legislative Assembly officers. If you are indeed that confident na bobo kami, why don't you try approaching any of us and discussing with us the issues you have rather than posting uncanny comments on multiply. A little respect is always appreciated.
ReplyDeleteWith regards to the apathetic and lazy statement, an argument was raised that some students did not vote because they were too lazy to log on to their MyLaSalle, which I don't doubt. Wouldn't you believe some students didn't vote because of this reason? And apathy isn't meant to be negative. If the students really don't give a damn about USG, then that is their choice. But my point is, why should the votes be sacrificed just because some other people didn't care.. hence, apathetic. Next, if I recall, the plebiscite was only extended once, because the SC failed to address the issue of properly informing the students about the USG during the week of the original plebiscite due to the U-Break issue which was also addressed by the SC. Both the sstudents and SC were pre-occupied with the U-Break issue that the USG wasn't paid much attention to. So I guess, the reasons for extension are valid. The reason for extension was not because we wanted to reach a certain amount of yes votes, if that is your interpretation. Our goal was to get as many people to vote because every student has a voice in this.
ReplyDeleteBakit bawal na ba magpost d2 and saying na bobo cla? actually lage ko naman kinakausap ang mga LA reps about issues regarding the university. kelangan ba sayu pa ako lumapit? there are a lot of LA reps out there you know. and i'm not referring the bobo cla statement to the LA reps. isip muna mehn? and i agree with what trish and ram said. ndi naman kxe dapat bgyan pansin ang mga hindi kapansin pansin na bagay. tsk tsk. MASMARAME PANG DAPAT PAGTUUNAN ANG SC KESA SA MGA GANITO! *end of discussion*
ReplyDelete"bakit pa kailangan i-extend pa ng i-extend habang umabot ang yes votes sa quota? para san pa ung plebiscite kung ganun lng din pala mangyayari.."
ReplyDeleteika nga sa programming, this is what we call BRUTE FORCE! xD
bad un a
ReplyDeletegrabe, kaya yan ang ayoko sa SC puro na lang Pulitika...
ReplyDeleteCSO na lang tayu! wahahaha! jokes!
ay hindi.. COSCA na lang.. nakakatulong ka pa.. :P
ill reply to your arguments as soon me time ako..
madami pa kasi ako ginagawa ngaun.. XD
end of discussion pero dinagdagan mo pa rin.. wahahahaha.. jokes.. :P
ReplyDeletedi ko gets kung ano ibig sabihin nun BRUTE FORCE sa USG.. lol.. :))
ReplyDeletekayo na lng magkipag-usap marami pa ako gagawin xD. its hard to get my points across. and tinatamad ako haha... hay...
ReplyDeleteit's hard to get the points across only if ung kausap mo close-minded or pentium .7 ang processing speed. hahahahaha
ReplyDeletepentium poor(four)
ReplyDeleteisipin mo bakt brute force! dali! maiicp mo dn yan!
ReplyDeleterofl
ReplyDeleteeto naman hindi ko na nga sinabi na close-minded ehh xD derecho ahh haha. meron palang pentium .7 lmao
ReplyDeletegeneralized un ha. baka isipin nio isang tao lng. hahaha
ReplyDeleteadik kayu ayaw niyo tigilan blog ko ah.. :))
ReplyDeleteun iba nanahimik na. natauhan eh
ReplyDeleteahh tama-tama.. ako kasi hindi ko nigeneralized bwahahaha.. xD
ReplyDeletenagcocomment lng kme d kme adik haha.. c allan lng adik at pedo xD
ReplyDeletepedo si allan? ngaun ko lang nalaman un ah o.0
ReplyDeletesabi na eh :))
ReplyDeletesi ram yaoi boy...
ReplyDeleteRESCIND na daw USG!!!!!
ReplyDeleteibig sabihin hindi muna tuloy yung USG.. *tama ba?
kasi meron mga ibang LA reps na hindi nakaattend nung napass yung USG..
tapos ata sila Ate Nicole Villarojo nagsend din ata ng letter of rescind..
ang weird nga eh..
basta yun...
ill keep you posted pag me nakuha akong bagong info .. hehe.. :P
rawr! buti naman! haha
ReplyDeleteI’ve read the entire page of comments and I’m glad that a few people at least cared to ask/comment about the USG. I appreciate them all. However, I only looked for comments that were objective to the issue.
ReplyDeleteThe resolution contains almost every reason why it should be ratified. As you can see in the resolution, all the arguments are objective and supported by the Student council constitution.
"1. i think kung talagang 50%+1 ng total votes at hindi ng total population dapat sinabi nila yun agad.. or kung kung hindi sinabi agad.. dapat sinabi nila ng MALINAW na ganun nga.. the fact is hindi nila sinabi ng MALINAW kaya nagkakagulo..."
Now, this is my response to your stand. Nagkagulo lang about the effectivity of the USG. We (yes including the SC officers) all thought that we needed 50+1 % votes of the ENTIRE student population, something we (the LA reps) overlooked. The DLSU student council constitution Article XVII, Section 2 states that any amendments or revision of this constitution under Section 1 hereof shall be valid only when ratified by a majority of all VOTES CAST in a plebiscite. Meaning, only the people who voted will be counted for the plebiscite. Yung mga hindi bumoto, hindi kasama sa counting. Ang nangyari sa botohan ay: "Whereas, the plebiscite cast 3, 684 votes with 2, 521 (68.43%) students favored the ratification, 896 (24.32%) students were against the ratification and 267 (7.25%) students abstained." 3648 lang ang bumoto out of the 8000 (more or less) students in DLSU. This led you to ask, bakit konti lang ang bumoto?
"2. i think the students are "not too apathetic or too lazy to log-in their my lasalle account" some students do not really know what USG is, so why would they care to vote if they don’t know what it is.. i think kasalanan din "NILA" yun kasi hindi nila ininform ng MABUTI yung mga students kaya konti lang yung bumoto..”
When you say that students did not care to vote because they do not know what it is, this is ignorance. Ignorance is not an excuse. The USG was publicized during the GE2008 (2007 2006 2005), in all yahoo groups, plaridel and tls, blogs, we gave out flyers, posted tarps, we had booths, and even brother armin wrote an email (check your mylasalle account) regarding the plebiscite. Also before voting in the mylasalle account, naka explain doon kung ano ang mga crucial changes sa constitution. Ano pa ba ang hindi namin nagawa?
Regardless. it was rescinded anyway. (under reasons that are subjective)